Toronto Vs. NYC

Girls in Toronto may come from a different part/region of Europe than those in the places many guys here visit. Plus under 30 I'm not even sure if european/whites are the majority given that 50% of toronto are direct immigrants and many non whites are born in Canada too, but the majority of older people are disproportionately white suggesting that the youths are dispropotionately non whites. The other logical reason additionally is that those girls in Europe know when to put down the cake. I recall In Norway seeing only 1 truly fat girl under 40 and she was german-american immigrant. So it could just be the white/european canadian girls do not take good care of themselves compared to their european counterparts who know when to put the fork down and workout. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto "In 2006, people of European ethnicities formed the largest cluster of ethnic groups in Toronto, 52.6%,[86] mostly of British, Irish, Italian, and French origins" -So if you're not into British/Irish chicks, or French and Italian chicks then it makes perfect sense you do not find Toronto girls attractive. And its true because I don't in general find any of these girls attractive sexually except the "really hot ones" because most of them are just very blah and average looking to me, nothing special. Now if the top ethnic groups were more representative other than just West Europe, then you'd have a point. The top european countries like czech, ukraine, russia, sweden/norway, etc are small minorities in toronto, the largest of that group is the russian and ukranians but much of central/ south/east europe and even south west and north europe is entirely unrepresented in this city. I don't see threads lining up for bang Italy, bang Britain, Bang Ireland, or Bang France. and most of the France threads are guys focused on getting easy westernized arabic or north african girls, which only proves my point. The bang britain threads, the few that exist focus on the fact that British girls are known to be EASY, not really hot. I also notice that the Italian, French all seem to come from the same region anyways. Ie. most the Italian in Toronto are from the central regions. Few blonde northern italians from Lombardia. Why is that significant. Well it is only the richest part, with Milan in it, and the fashion capital with the best looking girls who are of nordic descent mixed with Italian and are dispropotionately good looking. Its like the difference between having mid western and mountain west girls vs New York and Cali girls immigrating. Also few sicilian immigrants which are also imo better looking the central italians who are not imo just not as hot physically. The French ones are always from the north or central and very blah looking, nothing special, the kind of person who you'd walk into a room and completely not notice at ALL, few of the hotter ones mixed with German from the south or mixed with arab. I just don't find alot of these girls attractive, so finding a hot one is half the challenge.

Brazil and prostitutes.

I notice when I read around alot on Rooshv forum,lots of guys are implying other guys (particularly black guys but not only them) are mainly either knowingly or unknowingly sleeping with "semi-pros". It seems like something everyone is aware of but I have no clue of, can someone shed some light on this? How do guys land semi pros over there, I seem to be missing something from that discussion likely because I don't travel there, are these guys look for hookers or are the just looking for easy pussy and just happen to end up with hookers? There are lots of innuendos around the subject but no one every comes out and says it straight and I can't find anyone being direct about it

part 4

The general consesus is that Toronto has gotten alot worse since the late 90s early 00s. There are numerous factors that can go into this, But on the face of it, yes you did luck out. I also agree many of the GTA boys have no game, but neither does 95% of the general population in Western countries, only about 1% know of game and other 4% just kind of have natural game (ie the quarter back, the home coming king, the cool smooth talking black/latino guy, the "ladies man" etc.). Since the time you last came here roughly 1 million more men now live here with a slight increase of women, most of whom you wouldn't want to fuck

Part 3

-How can you be certain that women in Toronto grow up in Western culture when: -60% of those under 30 are direct immigrants -And the remainder are almost all either 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants -Worst of all there is lots of racial/ethnic cliquism here that is only overcome seemingly by social circle ties. Hence the reason why where are you from, followed by what is your ancestry is the most common question -These are not white girls in Nebraska looking to bang because they are horny and bored. These are white girls who the largest white ethnicity come from ugly (English, scottish, irish, italy, germany, and france and everythign else -"A majority of Torontonians claim their origins from as either in whole or part from England (15.9%), Scotland (11.1%), China (10.6%), Ireland (10.5%), India (9.6%), Italy (9.2%), Germany (5.1%), France (4.8%), Poland (4.1%), Portugal (3.7%), the Phillipines (3.6%), and Jamaica (3.2%)." Basically a long list of countries none of us want to fuck girls from except poland and phillipines (almost all nannies coming for their green cards in their 50s and 40s). And it seems they sent the ugliest girls in poland to toronto so they did not have to deal with them over there. If we were talking Nebraska here, there at least be 5% swedish and Czech to compell the ugly, likely some germans mixed with native or distant african american ancestry like lolo jones, but instead you have the real ugly stereotypical type Germans girls coming here. The only other two douable girls on that list are Irish (mostly irish MALE immigrants coming to work here in trades and their wives/gfs) and a small percent of AVERAGE looking Italian girls who are not fat nore ugly, which will be hard to find because the best looking Italian usually come from either the far north (milan) or the south and almost all the italians here are from central and very plain and average looking not to mention fat. French, again, even Russel Peters, an INDIAN comedian from Toronto , said what do you do in Montreal send all your ugly chicks to Toronto. -When you add up all the countries that men are running away from and no one on this forum is interested in going to lets see , its basically all those countries, and again Italy has lots of male sx tourist because the Italians are not getting laid because the women are sexually conservative in general, especially from central. Which is why I wrote to find girls from the south or tourist girls who away from their parents are more open to fuck -I can't speak on LA, but I can tell you Toronto is one of the toughest places for SNL and ONS and you have a better chance getting laid in Lebanon and I have been to both.

Do not go to Toronto for POON 2

Hey Confuclican, glad to have you be productive. My experience was based not off what Roosh said but my own experience (they just happen to be similar), I was simply going into more detail because I was there longer, and I am in still near by it right now staying with a friend for IDK how long. However I found what he said to be spot on. You seen the pictures, you'd be hard pressed to find a good looking girl there AND even if you did, you see all those guys dancing with guys, they are COMING FOR HER, so you will spend your entire time defending her from guys trying to fuck her. I just made a profil on Ukranian date 2-3 days ago and already 4 girls all of whom I'd be open to fucking have messaged me, and ZERO fatties. I create a profile for POF Toronto and I get messaged from fat chicks wanting to fuck me with no condoms. When I was in NYC, accidentally made my POF profile for America and guess what, the women there were far hotter in the nyc nj area than anything I see here. (11-13-2012 08:17 PM)Confuclican Wrote: Hell, a lot of legit pornstars have come out of Toronto but enough about that. If you cannot get laid in this westernized culture (mainly big cities) where women are bred to put out and brag about it, then you better hope for a green card marriage. Ya sure women may not make good marriage material but for one night stands, I fail to see why people bitch so much about places like Toronto or ANY big cities in Anglo countries like the US and Canada. Look at the pictures, the hotter the girl the less of a chance you have taking her home, the hottest girls in the pictures are NOT EVEN INTERESTED IN MEN. They'd rather grind on their friend than any man. Look at the picture with the 2 hot chicks, then look at all the men below/behind, NONE of them were good enough, odds are they will hamsterize a reason why me and you aren't no matter our game. The pornstar who I know who come from Toronto are few and far between, ironically just a ukranian immigrant nikki benz come to mind. But again, any hot or cool girl quickly leaves this city, as it is dead end, its good for making money and thats it. (11-13-2012 08:17 PM)Confuclican Wrote: A wake up call here, if you are living in a big cities but have failed to get laid, it isn't the women there (there are a lot of women there anyways), it isn't the weather, it isn't the "dynamics", it isn't shit, it is because you are a fucking undesirable bum. Somehow guys are sold on this idea of a foreign fantasy. Sure, you lay on the couch all day, eat chips, and turn into a fat sack of shit but pack your bags and go to X country and beautiful women will be awaiting you and falling at your feet because you learned "game". BULLSHIT. No places in the world exist where someone who looks like a creepy bum (like the guy you cited) will have 10s throwing himself at him unless it is an arranged marriage. So every poster and the countless bloggers who number in the hundreds complaining of Toronto are all bums, there are even women complaining here sucks. At least in foreign countries I don't deal with constant cock blocking, not even in America did I find that much cock blocking. (11-13-2012 08:17 PM)Confuclican Wrote: I live in a small deep south town, believe me, I have more than enough excuses 1. too many obese women 2. hot women are there but they manage to have their standards sky high 3. conservative culture 4. lots of religious nuts 5. religious people not willing to put out early guess what!? I try my luck anyways and have had some success. Guys here have dated the attractive women that exist and life goes on. Most of the crap you have said 1-5 all apply to Toronto, plus the other points I mentioned earlier. The only difference is you have an advantage of knowing who the town slut is, there are too many people in a city of 5 million to know who the town slut is. And besides, you'd agree we should not travel to your town to get poon, but people would think that Toronto a major "liberal" city would be an easy place to score poon but it simply isn't true. Half of the girls under 30 in the city are asian or indian, throw in 10% black and your down to 40% white girls. Plenty of whom are fat, ugly etc and the most attractive ones are the russians and ukranians who are a small minority in the city less than 4%. By the time you cut out the fat and ugly your down to about 2% who 100% of the male population is chasing. I'm not saying you can';t get laid here, but it won't be easy for snl. (11-13-2012 08:17 PM)Confuclican Wrote: 1. can apply to just about any place on this entire planet 2. cannot be proven based on real data 3. is word of mouth (and honestly, someone like roosh will have it hard getting even the ugly girls the world over) You probably dressed like a bum, hit on girls, and came off as creepy. Sad reality of it all, looks and style and status matter, game is important but game alone won't do it. If you are whining about not being able to get laid in a big city in a developed country like Canada, then you better give up all hope in general. There are countries with rates of obesity very low, and Toronto has high rate of obesity. So why do I have success in every city I visit except Toronto? Why is it when I meet the same girl through social circle she is all over me, but when I introduced myself I am a creepy?

Do not go to Toronto for POON

I had just recently read about and watched Roosh on explaining the difficulties he was having in Toronto. And more or less they were spot on. I'd just add a few more things to it. 1. Too Many Beta males and beta orbiters 2. Too Few hot chicks... too many fatties 3. Too much cock blocking... Constant cock blocking.. and not just from fat women 4. Girls not open to SNL n ONS 5. Too many ugly girls 6. Too many egos out of whack, thank you facebook and orbiters 7. Thompson hotel, ha ha ha, the only place you will be successful because you are scoring semi pros and full pros off of work, don't be surprised if you get asked for money after. 8. Your best chance to get laid is to go to thompson hotel, hit several clubs in king and queen west hit a few clubs around adelaide and peter, and try to find yourself a girl who will come back with you and won't ask many questions. And better be prepared to spend money on bottle service. But IMO, the amount you spend here would be better spent in even Beirut or Abu Dabai, at least the quality of women you will score dropping $600- $1200 a night will be SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER. Women in the looks meter generally top out at around a high 7 here. 9. Social circle game is too important of a factor, a man, a stranger man is more or less assumed to be untrustworthy, a rapist, pedo, murderer, serial killer looking to kidnap, criminal etc, because people watch too much television here. A girl who would easily shoot you down without thinking twice in pickup will clamour for your dick if you are introduced by a mutual friend or through social circle 10. Bitch shields are like that of a spartan and you must ignore about 10-15 minutes of utterly rude and insulting comments to get anywhere. 11. Attitudes are just shit. Instead of feminine and elegent you get boorish brutish man like behaviour 12. Penis Envy, they want to be sans the penis because then they'd have to deal with the shit we do. All in all its just not worth the effort. So many times I see a tall attractive man in his 20's walking with a woman who looks like a dumpling or a see a guy his lesser walking with a 7, which is the top look around here, I do not envy that guy, in fact its the opposite because the shit he had to go through probably involved orbitering her for years, and I know plenty of guys here with girlfriends who they aren't fucking and have both women and men confess to me this. And often these guys are getting pitty sex after 1-2 years of begging for it as a bf all the while she is fucking some other guy on the side he doesn't know about. Of course he could never be convinced of that because beta males never see the bad side of women until it is too late and they often blame themselves. [Image: 62.jpg] This is the quintessential Toronto male life. At the bottom you have the guy who is 25 and will never get laid until he finds a girl who is looking for a "nice guy" but she will cheat on him because he can't give her gina tingle. To the left you have the fairly good looking asian guy who has enough game to manage to land himself an indian whale. In the centre you have the Indian man who could have anyone of these ugly girls he wants and he is convinced he is with Jessica simpson, aishwarya rai and beyonce, the look in his face says it all. [Image: 0.jpg] woah easy now player, better take those hot toronto 10s home before that indian guy standing by himselfcomes steals her [Image: 26.jpg] Well I guess girls from Toronto aren't that bad, at least someone is getting some [Image: 139.jpg] Oh but surely someone must be getting the girls [Image: 2.jpg] Nope, the 2 ones humping each other WORK THERE and are paid to make the place look fun, and I know the guy, he is fucking the fat chick on the end. Hence why he is not even touching the other 2, nor humping them, they are humping each other PROOF [Image: 46.jpg] I am sure she is dating the old man too who she is bringing over for the camera shot too right! All in all Toronto is a players/gamers hell hole where as you can clearly see heterosexual women would rather hump each other than a straight guy. Am I to believe that all of these women could not find a single man good enough in that crowd and crowd of men. Highly unlikely. And this club is in Queen St WEst, Richmond, Adelaid and Peter area which is suppose to be the best clubbing area. The women seriously do just go to clubs to dance they are not really interested in meeting men. You may come to toronto like this [Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSboKtc8okmOB53EAhQmr3...ZGewnMj_tg] But by the end of your stay and countless cock blocks you will leave like this [Image: 252.jpg]

Couchsurfer B*tch vs RooshV

Quote: CouchSurfing’s official line is that the website is to be used for those seeking friendship only and contacting members for dating is considered harassment. However, this hasn’t stopped people from actively seeking out sex from other CouchSurfers. Scouring CouchSurfing for sex is publicly endorsed by the much maligned Roosh V and his forum provides likeminded men with a space to exchange tips on how to pick up CouchSurfers. If this isn’t disturbing enough, I found one thread entitled “Bangs from CouchSurfing” where members discuss the overall attractiveness of female CouchSurfers and even post up individual profiles to be rated by other forum users. Some excerpts from the website: “Listen, the times I went out with a single girl on CS, it worked out fine, often ended up making out. But I have also wasted nights out with girls who were taken and thought it was going to be innocent fun.” “It’s an easy way of getting women over, they are most of the time very easy to bang – but ugly as hell.” And from Roosh himself: “CouchSurfing has the ugliest girls of any country.” http://www.travelsexlife.com/2012/08/cou...you-about/ The best part of it is this 'And from Roosh himself: “CouchSurfing has the ugliest girls of any country.”' And her picture [Image: Liz.png]